Tom Utley, commmenting on Sir Derek Wanless' report in the Telegraph today, bravely puts forward a point of view on care for the elderly which is not often publicly expressed:
One of Sir Derek's ideas is that most means-testing should be abolished, so that many fewer pensioners will be forced to sell their homes in order to pay for their care. I understand the appeal of what he says, because means-testing punishes the thrifty and rewards the profligate.But I am now going to make myself extremely unpopular by saying that I don't really see why pensioners shouldn't be expected to sell their homes in order to pay for their care in old age.
Many will argue that they have financed the NHS and the social services by paying their taxes throughout their working lives - and so why shouldn't they reap in their old age what they sowed during their youth?
The trouble is, of course, that most of today's pensioners did not sow nearly enough during their working lives to cover the costs of looking after them in their dotage. If only the NHS were a proper insurance-based service, as it was originally intended to be, then they would have a point. But it isn't - which is why we are in this mess.There is, as we all know, a very much better way of looking after the elderly than simply shovelling money in the direction of strangers, in the hope that they will look after them.
I am thinking of the most effective social security system ever devised by man or nature. It is a system that still operates in most primitive societies, but one which is on the verge of collapse in modern Britain.
I mean, of course, the family.
In almost every way, I would much rather live here than in a mud-hut village in Africa.
But I reckon that the very old in the Third World, looked after by their families in communities bustling with life, have a much better time of it than a great many British OAPs, sitting around in care homes stinking of urine, watching afternoon television and counting the days or weeks until that rare visit from their young.
There is more on this in The Welfare State We're In in the chapter on pensions. The section starts on page 299 with Octavia Hill's comments on pensions to a Royal Commission the late 19th century.
There are several ways of dealing with that minority of the elderly who need prolonged special care in old age:
- care at home or in an institution, paid for out of savings, insurance, mortgaging the home (and getting an annuity) or (if going into a care home) selling the home.
- care by the family or paid for by the family.
- care at home or an institution paid for by other taxpayers.
The apparent attraction of the last one is undermined by several factors:
- people come to rely on it but then find that, like most services theoretically provided by the state, it is rationed and not always available to those that need it. (This results in elderly incapable people living dreadful, lonely lives at home. They sometimes effectively starve themselves. It is quite possible for them to break a bone and then be unable to get help, causing them to die in dreadful circumstances.)
- children come to think that their parents are the state's problem, not their own. Their way of thinking about the issue - and thus their behaviour - changes.
- people come to think it is not worth saving and amassing capital because it could all go on the cost of a care home and, if they have no capital, the state will pay for the care anyway. So why bother saving?
- some people are likely to cheat or else legally take measures to avoid paying for their own care. They will hide their assets or give them away so that their children get their money while the state pays for their care. Or, to be more accurate, other people will pay for the care of their parents.
Posted by James Bartholomew • Indexed in Care for the elderly
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The unfortunate fact is that the State took the money, promising to look after people.
Those of us who might have made sensible provision, during our working years, could not do so because the State was pre-empting 40% of our income in various taxes.
The fact that they wasted all that money on themselves doesn't alter the fact that we haven't got it, so we cannot now pay the nurses and carers we're going to need.
Posted by: Andrew Duffin at April 3, 2006 01:25 PM
The state took the money promising to look after people when many of them were dead by 70.
The state is incompetent with money, because no-one takes any personal responsibility for anything. This is the real, #1 major flaw with the public services.
If Mr Bartholemew writes a poor book for example, no-one buys it and he is out of pocket. In the public world, he gets paid whether his book is good or not. So in the public world, many people don't bother, or spend their time CYA.
Posted by: Paul at April 5, 2006 06:26 PM
The elderly in the mud huts, of course, are likely to live to 60 rather than 90. That's much less time being looked after, and much less time to develop assorted dementias.
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It's down to state incompetence and Brownian motion. We are taxed to the hilt for an ineptly run service which pays out to those who don't bother to save, so people don't bother to save which makes it worse. So Brown just tinkers endlessly, which is like trying to pay off your mortgage by digging for coins down the back of a sofa.
I cannot comprehend how intelligent people like Blair and Brown refuse to accept that their system cannot work. Or maybe they simply don't care, as they'll be long gone when the bill comes round.
Utley is right, but you aren't *allowed* to say that. (Most of the responses to your book seem to be "you CANT do that" without actually any real arguments ....)
Pensioners actually think they've earnt their pensions. I believe they actually earn about 5 years. The rest is a gimme.
That's nothing, Policemen (chosen because their pension is the most blatant gimme) honestly believe they pay for their own pensions.
These people need whacking with a reality stick.
It doesn't add up, it can't add up, and at some point the **** is going to hit the fan. The economy will simply implode as more and more people discover the 'benefit' of living off the state.
Posted by: Paul at March 31, 2006 10:58 PM