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January 24, 2006
Tuesday
Welfare reform Green Paper comes out today

I have just returned from a brief appearance on the Today programme where I was up against Polly Toynbee, discussing the welfare reform green paper which is coming out today. During today, you should be able to hear it on the Today website. The time of the discussion was 8.55am.

I argued that one could have little confidence that much would happen. In America, the welfare reform programme had resulted in a 60 per cent reduction in the benefits caseload. In Britain, nothing approaching that result has been achieved or even attempted.

Now, after eight and a half years in power, the Government is producing a mere Green Paper - a discussion document. The performance has been lamentably slow and inadequate.

Polly Toynbee said she understood that the Government intended to take 100,000 people a year off incapacity benefit (from a current figure of 2.5 million). She was utterly confident this would be achieved. She thought that the figures were already going that way.

Her faith in the effectiveness of government action on this is illogical given the government's dithering and lack of effectiveness thus far.

As to the actual proposals in the Green Paper,they are not fully out as I write, but I notice one in particular that seems worrying.

It is the idea that the contracts of General Practitioners should somehow be adjusted so that they have some kind of incentive not to sign patients off as sick.

One can see why the government would have this idea. It is concerned tht GPs sign people off as sick too readily. That is surely right. But this is the wrong way to deal with it. It will corrupt the relationship between doctor and patient, which should be supportive. This will make the doctor into a kind of policeman of benefits, suspicious of symptoms which a patient claims. The patient will sense this suspicion. What should be a friendly relationship will become something different.

A better way to deal with this is what they did in New York. Those people who seek to be on incapacity benefit should be seen by doctors who are not their usual General Practitioners. These doctors should be looking for what work these claimants can do. Their role should clearly be that of acting for the government helping the individuals get benefit, if entitled, and/or identifying what kind of work they could do.

More generally, the Green Paper plan seems to be that people will be required to come in to talk about getting a job in the 'Pathways to work' programme. If they do not come in to talk about it, they might have their benefits reduced. This is nothing like as radical as in New York, for example, where claimants were:

1. Assessed for what they could do.
2. Required absolutely to seek work of the sort they could do. Aided by private companies which got paid more if they succeeded in getting claimants into work.
3. If no work could be obtained, they would be required to work for the state for three days a week (sweeping the park, helping in a hospital, clerical work and so on) and required to seek work the other two days.

The difference between the New York and that of the British government is that between chalk and cheese.

Posted by James Bartholomew • Indexed in NHS • Welfare benefits

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James,

I don't quite know what you must have done to upset the Toady team, but your interview isn't up on the R4 site yet as of 11am....

Toodle Pip!
PG

Posted by: The Pedant-General at January 24, 2006 11:06 AM

I though you came across very well, although Polly Toynbee was a bit rude.

Posted by: CW at January 24, 2006 12:59 PM

I suspect the main difference between the approach in New York and Tony Blair's belated tinkering is that the Americans set out to reduce the number of claimants, whereas Tony Blair, who is usually only concerned with perceptions, is merely trying to create the idea that he is doing something. After all, too much success in this area can only cost his party votes.

Posted by: John East at January 24, 2006 02:47 PM

I went into General Practice in 1975. In those days you could gently hint that the patient was ready to return to work, and often they would look ashamed and agree. Nowadays if you were to suggest any such thing you would be treated with surly contempt and they would threaten to 'report' you, whatever that means. With retirement imminent I am reluctant to try to rock the boat. I am certifying people for 'stress' whom I am sure are quite fit for work, but who find that it makes them feel small and lacking in that key ingredient, selfish steam. The trouble is that if I were to confront them then they are likely to enlist one or more of the hoardes of soft-left charitable and state workers whose job it is to represent the downtrodden. I, and many of my contemporaries simply take the line of least resistance.
So far as Patsy Hewitt is concerned, she and her chums have colluded in the construction of the problem, I'm buggered if I'll clear it up for them.

Posted by: A. N. Other-Doc at January 24, 2006 03:42 PM

At least, judging from the comments on this site, we're not "on a distant shore" alone!

Posted by: Raw Carrot at January 25, 2006 02:56 AM

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